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Is Cantwell the best we can do?

I was bumped from this week's Drinking Liberally podcast earlier than expected so that Joel Connelly from the Seattle PI could have more time to criticize Stranger contributor Cienna Madrid for this post in the Slog.  In it, Madrid called Interior Secretary nominee Dirk Kempthorne a weasely, incompetent chode (although I thought it was spelled choad?) and then criticized Senator Cantwell for appearing to kiss up to him.

 

Connelly spelled out a few more of his thoughts in his column here:

With President Bush sinking in the polls, and chances of an independent Congress on the rise, the left fringe in Seattle politics is noisily sniping at Democratic Sen. Maria Cantwell.

It's bizarre, but not all that unusual: Our "Hey Hey, Ho Ho" crew is notorious for giving conservatives a free pass.

Instead, the loudest leather-lunged protests get reserved for those in public life who -- awkwardly, sometimes imperfectly -- try to preserve the environment, protect the consumer and safeguard civil liberties.

I'll leave it up to Cienna to argue about the environment part.  I don't have any reason to doubt that Cantwell is one of the best Senators when it comes to protecting the environment.  It's just not something I pay close attention to.  But for safeguarding civil liberties, an issue I do care about and follow closely, Cantwell is not awkward or imperfect, she's nearly as bad as most of the Republicans in Congress.  And when it comes to another issue I follow closely, the War in Iraq, she's not much better there either:

Cantwell has said she doesn't think her vote for the war was a mistake. A few months ago, she stunned the members of this newspaper's Editorial Board by talking of "our successes in Iraq."
Cantwell voted for the Patriot Act (while Senator Murray did not), which allows the government to (among other things):

- Issue secret intelligence orders for any tangible thing, including library or medical records, if the government can show only "relevance" to terrorism. The target does not have to be suspected of any wrongdoing;
  • Permanently gag Americans even after they have turned over their most personal information;
  • Search private homes and not give notice to the resident for a month, or even longer - all for the convenience of law enforcement;
  • Collect and keep personal data in databases indefinitely, including library, financial and medical records.
Beyond those reasons, the Patriot Act is an even bigger concern to civil libertarians because of how the inclusion of anti-meth clauses reinforces the belief that the war on drugs and the war on terror are both part of the same "fight," and that fighting terror in this day and age isn't just about Muslim extremism, it's about combating any form of personal activity labeled a threat by the executive branch.  Here's part of her statement following the vote for the bill.

Despite my reservations and after great deliberation, I support reauthorization today.

I believe that we must not allow the PATRIOT Act to expire. With new provisions and improved meaningful oversight secured at last, empower our national leaders and policy makers with the accountability, wisdom, and prudence to use this legislation's powers in a way that does not undermine the freedoms we seek to protect.

...

Meth, as a problem in our communities, will not simply disappear on its own. We must make it a top priority and work to end it together. That's why I had introduced similar legislation to address meth use, manufacture, and sale, and create a law regulating the commercially available products used to make meth, such as pseudoephedrine.

And that's why I am so glad to see the Combat Meth Act included in today's legislation. I was proud to cosponsor this legislation when Senators TALENT and FEINSTEIN introduced it, and I am pleased that it will be signed into law, providing comprehensive reforms and critical resources. The legislation enforces strict regulations and keeps records so that meth producers can't get their hands on those key ingredients. When a similar type of law was enacted in Oklahoma, it reduced meth lab busts in the state by 80 percent.

Unfortunately, despite the reduction in labs in Oklahoma, the state saw a surge in Mexican-produced meth.  With the enacting of similar laws in other states, including Washington, this more highly potent and more expensive replacement for the home-cooked meth has led to a nationwide rise in property crime and the strengthening of criminal gangs along the Mexican-US border.  This has made it even more difficult to police the Mexican border, an issue that matters to a large number of people even in this state, especially among independent voters.  I believe that Democrats are better equipped at solving the problem of illegal immigration, because it has to be done first by regulating the hiring practices of companies, but I'm far from convinced that Maria Cantwell understands the issue well enough to counter the scaremongering on immigration that will likely be a central focus of McGavick's campaign.  

The world has changed quite a bit since we elected Ms. Cantwell in 2000.  The way we understand the tradeoff between liberty and security, our collective knowledge of the Middle East, our notions of what we're capable and incapable of doing there militarily, and our views of the importance of the 4th Amendment and privacy rights have all matured significantly since then.  But Maria Cantwell doesn't seem to have followed this arc of greater understanding, especially as she barely seemed concerned that Samuel Alito, a man with a horrible record on civil liberties, was being installed on the Supreme Court.

With that said, I can't imagine a scenario in which I'd vote for Mike McGavick in November.  The Republican Party is rotting from the core right now and will probably needs years to rebuild to the point where they could get my vote again.  But the Democrats shouldn't convince themselves that the average Washington voter won't either.  We should focus on putting up the best possible candidate to make sure that there's no doubt who is better able to serve the people of this state.  

I've put up a link to Mark Wilson's campaign website on my site.  Wilson is challenging Maria Cantwell for the Democratic nomination.  He's a veteran.  He opposes the Patriot Act.  He supports ending the drug war.  In the brief time I got to speak with him on Tuesday, I didn't get his thoughts on the Iraq War, but I look forward to hearing a more realistic viewpoint than the stubbornness we've seen from Cantwell.  We're 6 months from officially deciding who the Democratic nominee will be this year and I think that we shouldn't be afraid to ask ourselves if Maria Cantwell is the best Democrats can do.  I have asked myself that question, and the answer is very clearly no.

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I hear this is a controversial topic around these parts.  I'm going to be out most of the weekend, but will try to reply to everyone.

by thehim on Fri Mar 24, 2006 at 10:07:41 PM PST

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by Daniel K on Fri Mar 24, 2006 at 10:09:06 PM PST

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  • Thanks Dan by thehim, 03/24/2006 10:19:56 PM PST (none / 0)
...this cycle.

Find someone in 3 years who actually has the credibility to run for the United States Senate.  Mark Wilson is a political gadfly - he can't figure out which party he belongs to (first a Libertarian - then a Green - now, magically, a Dem), and has absolutely no prior experience in anything that would prepare him to sit in the United States Senate.

Draft Inslee (although I hear he'd rather be Gov after Gregoire has had her run), or find just about anyone else - but Wilson isn't it.

I'm with Obama

by willisreed on Fri Mar 24, 2006 at 10:47:15 PM PST

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Look, I am sure you are smart enough to know that this dicussion would only matter over who would be the Democratic nominee if it was done quite a bit earlier. If you want to run a serious primary challenge it had to be started months earlier. Again, I think you know this.

Wilson clearly isn't a much of a Democrat and isn't much of senator quality either.  Again, my guess is you know this too.

The choice before us now is Cantwell or McGavick. I know which one of those two I support, what about you?

Now if your goal is to influence how Cantwell votes than there are many ways to do that. I would just suggest that trying to help McGavick get elected is not a very good place to start.

by Nindid on Fri Mar 24, 2006 at 11:03:00 PM PST

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  • What? by thehim, 03/25/2006 10:15:48 AM PST (2.00 / 1)

..."is Cantwell doing the best she can, and if not, how can we persuade her to do better?"

If I thought that the positions Cantwell has taken which have REALLY PISSED OFF her base were either:

A) A product of her deeply held principles

OR

B) Popular positions that bolstered her message

I would not be pissed off. Look, take an issue like Gun Control. I'm for it. A lot of Ls and Ps I know are for it, and I'll throw it out the window without a second throught because it's just bad politics.

But Cantwell's position on Iraq is ALSO bad politics. Her advisers are telling her it makes her seem "moderate". What it makes her seem is cowardly and out of touch.

All the issues thehim has mentioned have something in common - Cantwell is basically putting forward the idea that to get what we want we have to accept not only the FACT but the RIGHTNESS of the Republican approach. This is stupid. She is doing their work for them.

When Cantwell has stood up it has worked. Her present approach is not working. Cantwell can and must do better if she is going to be part of a greater victory. If she doesn't see an obligation to her party, if she just cares about herself, fine. That's her right. But then she absolves her party of their obligation to her.  

by dlaw on Sat Mar 25, 2006 at 01:38:31 AM PST

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I almost think--almost, but not quite--we'd be better off simply assuming that Sen. Cantwell will win back her seat with a comfortable margin of, say, six points or so. A few nights ago I heard McGavick speak on one of those vacuous tv commercials of his, and I suddenly thought, "No way this guy is going to win. Not with that voice."

In my view, we spend far too much time worrying that a few thousand Dems might not vote for Sen. Cantwell in the general. Why spend so much energy trying to keep other Dems in line?

I'd rather we get on to the business of supporting candidates who need our support (such as Darcy Burner). In addition, I'd rather that we pressure the elected officials we have to do serious work on the critical issues of the day.

I'd be happy to pressure Republicans, except they don't listen to people like me. So I'm stuck pressuring Democrats. If more of us had been pressuring Senators Murray and Cantwell, as well as various members of Congress, they would have been forced to join the Iraq civil war debate by now. There are lots of ways to pressure elected officials. We simply haven't been using the means at our disposal.

I'm always amazed when I make hard criticisms of Sen. Cantwell and send my public comments directly to senior Cantwell staff--I'm always amazed they don't just tell me to get lost. But I think it's because I tell them, over and over and over, that I simply want the senator to take constructive policy positions on Iraq. I want her to join the public conversation about it. And I always offer several concrete examples of positive things she could do.

I should add that different Congressional offices require different approaches. I don't think, for example, "tough love" is something you want to use with McDermott. It wouldn't be appropriate. The one thing I see that is required in dealing with all offices is the long-term cultivation of relationships. And that requires patience and persistance. Office staff also has to see what their boss is going to get out of working with you. More often than not, the "reward" is implied: maybe you'll make a glowing report in front of district membership; maybe you'll just be one more satisfied constituent; maybe you'll help them spread the word they're doing the right thing on an issue.

So I see all this do-we-or-do-we-not-vote-for-Cantwell talk as hindering our ability to pressure her to be more responsive on issues that might actually help her and, more importantly, help the human race.

by DWE on Sat Mar 25, 2006 at 08:23:34 AM PST

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Is Cantwell the best we cando?  No, of course not.

But that's the wrong question.

She is the best we will do in 2006.  

More to the point, she's the only meaningful choice we have in 2006.  Any chance to do better disappeared a year or two ago, when no real challenger came forward.

You're only young once, but you can be immature forever -- Larry Andersen
Blogging at Peace Tree Farm

by N in Seattle on Sat Mar 25, 2006 at 02:02:01 PM PST

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Here's the deal:  a whole lot of people got involved in Democratic politics in 2003-04 who had been dormant before, and now everybody wants a big change.  But political parties are too big to change in two years.  The reason we have to support Maria Cantwell this year is because there is no Democratic candidate who is better.  There is no way to change that in 2006, but we probably can change it for 2012.  The way to do that is to start supporting better candidates for local and state offices today.  Find those people who inspire us and think like us now, and convince them to get on City Councils, become Mayors, and run for the Legislature.  We can't expect to start at the top.  Take the Party over at the bottom, and in 4 or 6 years we can run experienced candidates for State and National offices, and it won't be a joke.  In the meantime, we have to do the best with the cards we're dealt.

by bobkoerner on Sun Mar 26, 2006 at 11:58:46 AM PST

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On election day know that the D's have a solid chance to take the 6 US senate seats needed to gain the majority provided all D seats are held. Cantwell is a top target for the RNC and the reason is simple, they know she will be a reliable vote for the Dem's when Dems are in the majority and we begin to change the direction our nation has been taking under Bush and with the R's in the majority in both houses.
So make as much noise for peace and for our troops as you can but do not throw your vote away for Aaron Dixon and by all means do cast a vote in the senate race.
Over at horsesass the story on Dixon by Geov Parrish titled Shame on the Greens and Aaron Dixon and linked here:  http://feedthefish.org/etsblog/archives/000970.html
The story details the results of basic research about this poor choice for the Green Party candidate. Can you say not viable? What follows is an excerpt from Geov's story listing a few choice facts about Dixon:

"1) Eighteen criminal charges in the last 17 years, most (but not all) for traffic violations and unpaid traffic fines.

Massive debts from dozens of unpaid fines in both Seattle Municipal Court and King County District Court. A number are for driving without insurance (and yes, he can afford it.)

Dixon claims on his web site that the woman he currently lives with (and who is his campaign media contact) is his wife. She isn't, and she'd better not be. He's still in the process of divorcing his last wife.

And he owes thousands in unpaid child support to yet another ex.

Not only has Dixon not voted since registering in 1998 (which was reported Thursday), but he's never voted before that, either. In other words, he's never voted in King County. Ever, over an adult life spanning nearly 40 years. And his inactive voter registration lists a now-invalid address."

by Particle Man on Wed Mar 29, 2006 at 08:50:48 AM PST

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I don't know, thehim, these hypotheticals just make me shake my head.  I mean if an actual Democrat was interested in running against Maria Cantwell, they should have done so and started a long time ago.  Anti-Cantwell folks cite votes she's taken as far back as '03 that were bad, but still , no established Dem thought to challenge her.  Sen. Mark Dayton of Minnesota was a dissapointment, and he opted not to run again.

Conservative Republicans mounted a serious effort to knock off moderate GOP Senator Specter of PA, but Specter narrowly won the primary (and was reelected handily).

Look at it this way, thehim.  If Dems had picked Deborah Senn in 2000, Slade Gorton would have been reelected.  Slade would have been Senator the last six years, and Slade sure as hell would have voted a lot worse than Cantwell has voted.  I know, that doesn't take the edge off certain MC votes, but Maria beat Slade and added a Dem seat.

I support Maria mainly because we need to hold her seat to futher efforts to take back the Senate.  That's why I support her, and other questionable Dems, like Sen. Ben Nelson (NE).

For me, at this point, its all about moving the ball forward.  And allowing Mike McGavick to win in a squeaker is not an option.

ps: Also, I understand that Cantwell could take a more liberal stand on issues to win back Seattle liberals.  But it looks like she ain't uh-gonna do it.  If she loses, I blame her first, not the anti-Cantwell type Dems who seem to frequent Washblog.

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by Belltowner on Fri Mar 24, 2006 at 11:58:43 PM PST

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thehim:
   I have tried to address some of the concerns about Mark Wilson on my blog, The Left Shue, over here

   Here is my conclusion:

The only question that remains is whether Mark is a "viable" candidate.
Viable: "Capable of success or continuing effectiveness; practicable"
Oddly enough, the people who spend the most time asking this question are the very people who keep his name out of their newspapers and other venues where he might gain some traction. I would suggest that the real answer to that question lies with those who consider themselves progressive and are looking for someone to represent their values and stand up to the Bush Administration. The way I see it, we either stand with Mark today or we live with more of the same for the NEXT SIX YEARS. You decide.

Peace,

Chad (The Left) Shue

by The Left Shue on Sat Mar 25, 2006 at 05:09:48 PM PST

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