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Net Neutrality, Washbloggers, is your problem, too

The mark-up of the Net Neutrality amendment died 11-11.  As with all legislation, it isn't really dead, but needs some resuscitation.  According to this article (which gives a decent look at both sides of the argument, albeit simplistically), our side plans "to use procedural maneuvers that would force supporters of the bill to get 60 votes to pass it".  They're not going to get 60 votes, so the telecom bill is probably dead for this session and we'll take up the fight again in January, hopefully with a Democratic House and (please Lord) Senate.  

PCWorld has a debate between a good-guy weenie and a shill for the telcos who makes it sound as though all the small businesses that are creating innovation on the web today are just taking the poor telcos to the woodshed, so we should all start paying more today for pretend infrastructure development next week.

If we lose this debate, friends, the damage will be more far-reaching than you think.

Verizon is a company that is run by Republicans, gives huge quantities of money to Republicans, and whose interests are better served by <strike>the corporate whoremongers groveling at their feet</strike> Republicans.  Do you honestly think Verizon would hesitate to close the pipes on JibJab in 2008 if given the chance?  Comcast has already proven to be less than trustworthy.  Given the chance to hit Daily Kos with enormous fees, do you think they'd hesitate?  

We're not talking about telcos blocking what information you or I can access from the internet - we're talking about telcos having the ability to block information from leaving Daily Kos' servers in the first place.  In other words, in the guise of "non-discrimination" and the "free market", the telcos are spending millions to convince Congressmen that the telcos themselves can determine what "freedom" appears in the "market".  If they're able to do it to Kos, who makes quite a bit of money to deal with overhead, small but relatively influential blogs like ours or HorsesAss don't stand a chance of staying in the pipes.  

Some great tidbits on how this campaign against freedom from censorship works come from Matt Stoller's coverage on 6/29:

Stevens, at one point in his rant, aimed some serious blows at the Internet companies. He said he felt that the 5 big Internet companies (all of whom wanted a "free ride" on the Internet) had cooked up this network neutrality amendment and were pushing it through the Congress. He said that in his opinion, more money had been spent by these 5 companies on this amendment than on any other amendment in history.

The irony of the moment was almost too much to bear. In the audience at the mark-up were around 200 people. I counted 8 from Internet companies. The total of telephone company lobbyists was more like 50 or 75. And of course, they are spending $15 million a week on advertising to push the bill and kill network neutrality. The Internet companies have bought almost no advertising, and they are outgunned by a factor of 10 to 1 in lobbying clout.

When Stevens was done, Dorgan just took him to the woodshed. Dorgan said, "You're such a passionate speaker, when you're finished, I'm not always sure whether you're carrying a strong hand or a weak hand. You've argued both sides of this case quite well." Everyone laughed. Dorgan then broke out the Hands off the Internet television commercial which claimed that telco-sponsored legislation prevented discrimination on the internet. Dorgan said, "Can you explain why it is that your supporters are lying on television? They say that nondiscrimination is in your bill. Can you show me where it's in your bill?" Dorgan hammered the point until Stevens wouldn't respond.

Full disclosure:  I am involved, loosely, in all this nonsense, in that my employer (whose opinions I don't represent here) is on the side fighting for Net neutrality and, hence, outgunned 10 to 1 in lobbying clout.  I want you to think about how much influence the telcos are buying right now with their $15 million a week in advertising.  It's simply unbelievable and mind-boggling.

In this diary, m3047 captures the classic misunderstanding of the issue:

I've been in the IT racket for a long time. The advocates for net neutrality were entirely unpersuasive in their public arguments, and I was left with the more rationalized than reasonable conclusion that this was about people who didn't want to pay for their Torrents bandwidth, or maybe pay extra for low latency+high bandwidth for their VoIP (which they haven't paid any number of telecomm taxes on): the "end to end cargo cult".

... so here's what I'm thinking:

I had no idea we were at the tipping point of returning to the point where you had to buy your "phone" from the "telcos".

I'm hopeful that m will share with us the full response he got from Cantwell's office on the issue (perhaps in the comments here?), so we can all understand more fully what the hell's going on.  

It ain't simple.  No doubt, this is at its core about the telcos versus...well, everyone else except their Republican toadies and possibly Joementum.  But the technical speak is difficult to negotiate.  We believe telcos are trying to control the flow of information on the internet, they claim that we're all just freeloaders hitching onto their bandwidth.  It's tough when both sides are crying foul based on issues of discrimination (and dontcha just love the poor ol' telcos crying about discrimination against them.  Sound similar to any major religions that control all debate, most government offices and national holidays, yet cry about the war being waged against them and constant discrimination against poor little ol' them?).  

We need some clarity here!  In one of the best pieces I've seen on the issue, Tim Berners Lee has this to say (and I highly recommend his piece):

Net neutrality is this:

If I pay to connect to the Net with a certain quality of service, and you pay to connect with that or greater quality of service, then we can communicate at that level.

That's all.  It's up to the ISPs to make sure they interoperate so that that happens.  Net Neutrality is NOT asking for the internet for free.

Net Neutrality is NOT saying that one shouldn't pay more money for high quality of service.  We always have, and we always will.

TBL is dead on, and his piece is required reading.  

There are things we can do, right now, to make a bit of noise.  Drop by and sign the petition at Save the Internet.  Visit It's Our Net.  Send a letter, fax, email or call Patty Murray to encourage her to be on the right side.  Hell, send a note to Maria Cantwell to thank her for taking up the banner on the issue.

And because I always say we need to mix some humor in so we don't take ourselves too seriously, check out Ted Stevens' "series of tubes" interpretation of the internets as a Techno Remix.  Bwahahahahaha!  I hope someone gets this and starts playing it at all of Mike!'s campaign events.  Let's find out if Mike! shares Ted's assessment of the internets (we already know he's opposed to Net neutrality).

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I haven't been able to wrap my head around this issue enough yet to hear the alarm going off to urge me to action.  I want to be both concerned and take action but I don't understand well enough, nor have the language yet for restating what the threat is, where it's coming from and what to watch out for, where and when to act.

Can you break this down into (smiling here) the most simplistic terms for me .. ya know, like talking points. I am interested but just can't get my mind to wade through the complexities of yet another issue.

On the Surge in Iraq "--we have set the bar so low it's buried in the sand at this point." - Barack Obama

by Lietta Ruger on Tue Jul 11, 2006 at 01:02:44 PM PST

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..blew the threading, but right now it's unrated and at the bottom. Followed up with another EM to Cantwell's office, letting them know I'd posted it (as a general rule I don't post correspondence without permission of the sender, but I figured they wouldn't mind the publicity in this instance). Anyway, I figure there's a pretty open invitation to respond to that thread (or this one), with standing.

..classic misunderstanding..

Hey when I misunderstand something I do it for a good reason! :-p

...entitled to run applications and use services of their choice, subject to the needs of law enforcement.

WTF? Well like I already said I probably feel about Maria the way a lot of Republicans felt about Slade.

by m3047 on Tue Jul 11, 2006 at 06:15:24 PM PST

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People who subscribe to cable-based broadband are already for the most part restricted to "set top" boxes provisioned by the carrier. I OTOH have a choice about what I connect over the ATM circuit to my copper telco provider... provided my ISP agrees to authenticate it[1].

Fine as long as it was set top, I guess, but as they expand into offering VoIP (and their networks become part of the internet) then questions about using a monopoly in one area to control other areas naturally arise, don't they. TiVO, anyone? How about MythTV?

[1] A lot of truly primordial DSL was "campus" and provisioned under "dark copper" tariffs.

by m3047 on Tue Jul 11, 2006 at 06:44:20 PM PST

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  • What language by dinazina, 07/12/2006 08:44:10 AM PST (none / 0)
Hi Switzer. What's the practical, concrete implications of what you're talking about?

To the best of my understanding, the telcos want to segment the market, charging more for higher "quality of service". Which I find amusing. First, because "quality of service" hasn't ever quite worked. Second, because if they start charging more for passing along certain types of data (e.g. video streams and bittorrent), that data will just get encrypted (to defeat the filtering).

As I linked to before, it's very likely that any effort to prioritorize some bits over others will have the unintented side-effect of a) slowing everybody down and b) being a lot more expensive to pull off. Of course, those increased costs will be shouldered by consumers. Which won't stand for it. And the telcos will have to backpeddle. Leaving us exactly where we are today.

If you were talking about censorship, or exclusion, or removal, or something that would keep me from communicating or searching or whatever it is that I do (regardless of the speed), then I'd probably get worked up. The business with Western companies upholding the Chinese firewalls kind of pisses me off. Stuff like that. (I figure let the Chinese build their own filters and firewalls. Google and Microsoft have no reason to take that business.)

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