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The Big Lie on Unemployment

Today the monthly unemployment report came out and it was, in some ways, much better than expected (BTW, the video at that site is good).

So, there's no reason to "talk down" the economy for that reason and these:

  1. People are gloomy enough.

  2. We have the right kind of Administration in place and they are trying very hard to do the right things.

  3. As long as America is creating things like Google Wave (which may, in my estimation, help completely change the world), there is much to be hopeful about.

But exactly because there's much to be hopeful about, there's also no reason to lie about the unemployment situation ...or is there?

If you had a business-conservative friend send you an email entitled "Possible Signs of the 'Econolypse'," you would expect to see things like this:


Countrywide CEO indicted - OK, a gimme.

Hedge fund indicted for fake tax shelters - let's note that their clients included former President Clinton.

Banks not going forward with FDIC plan to sell troubled mortgages - plan has been pulled due to lack of response, blamed partially on the fact that they'd have to take the writedowns upon sale (this is my favorite datum on this list).

Bernanke says we need to get on a path to balance and toward smaller deficits.

Rio Tinto deal now being questioned.

[That last referred to the proposed sale of Australian mining giant Rio Tinto to China.]

And in the follow-up email you would of course expect this:

...the Rio Tinto deal officially cratered tonight.

But what you might not expect is this:


State Tax Revenues.

Some examples from NY Times:

Washington State sales tax revs down worst-in-nation 14%.
Corp income taxes in Oregon down 44%.
Income taxes in NY down 49%!!!!!!!

Sales tax up in 8 states, and personal income tax collections up in 3 - North Dakota, Alabama, and Kansas.
29 states are down in all major categories.

Collective budget gap for the fiscal year ending this month for all states was estimated at $102 B (which seems low) and is projected at $121 B for next fiscal year.  Again, this seems low to me, but I live in California.

So I called my capitalist pal (whom I now label a "Contra-Democrat" rather than a "Republican" since he voted for Obama and against Prop 8). I noted with interest his sudden concern about government finance and added: "Hey, we've got to remember the city and county governments."

To which he replied:"Yes, there may come a time when we all say to each other: 'Hey remember back when we had city and county governments?"

That $121 billion in deficits (which I agree is a lowball estimate) doesn't take into account the cities and counties, which are often highly dependent on property taxes. Ouch.

Together we reckoned that there are about 18-20 million state and municipal workers in this country. My friend was a management consultant so I asked him what he thought the effect on those workers would be:

"Well, governments shed workers slower than businesses, so I'd say about 7% of them get the axe."

"So, about one point two five million workers?"

"Yeah, about that."

"At about, what, 50K in compensation?"

"Sure, about $60 billion in wages."

"Well, that's bad. Now how do the states and municipalities come up with the rest of their deficis?"

"Kite checks."

And with that we parted in good cheer.

The take-home there is not about the $60 billion or governments kiteing checks, since I think we all knew that was going to happen. The take-home is about those one and a quarter million people who will lose their government jobs. While the CBO said that "unemployment will likely keep rising through 2010 to peak over 10 percent", in fact the expected state and municipal job cuts are enough all on their own to drive unemployment to about 10.1-10.2% - and states and municipalities are planning to start those cuts next month.

Add to that the planned, permanent job cuts we know will happen at Chrysler, GM, their dealerships and suppliers and we are talking about 10.3-10.4% unemployment, minimum and in short order. Even that number assumes the rest of the economy not only doesn't shed any more jobs but actually makes up for the knock-on job losses that will come from shutting government offices and facilities, as well as car plants and dealerships.

This is important enough for the sake of the people who will lose those jobs, but there's more to think about:

For unemployment, service cut and other reasons that shall remain nameless in this particular missive, prudent people have to plan for another deflationary wave to hit us. The coming of this wave makes it absolutely essential that people like our friends in Olympia **NOT** make decisions that leave the institutions which support our economy denuded, abandoned and broken. Interest rates are still low. Now is the time to borrow-and-educate, borrow-and-reform, borrow-and-build - not the time to burrow and hide from voters.

Legislators will find than they can run, but they can't hide.

They must decide whether they believe the state of Washington is destined to be a development and innovation center for the world's future or a "failed state" - a quagmire of inequality, poor education and social ills that can't get out of its own way and is therefore not worth the investment. Will we use our gateway to the Pacific and high-tech accomplishments to challenge beleaguered California's economic leadership or will we quit?

Now is the Winter of 2008 made glorious Summer by this native son, Barack Obama. I think now is the time for hunchbacked Democrats, used to stooping for Republican hypocrisy, to straighten up and fly right.

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Because of recession many business establishments were closing down, and resulted into increasing rate of unemployment. That's why most of us might rely on payday loans, short/long-term loans or excessive use of credit cards. For some couples that would want to get married this year were really in dilemma. One of the biggest expenditures a person will make in their lifetime is on wedding expenses.  Wedding expenses have skyrocketed over the last couple decades, thanks in no small part to marketing departments finding something else to cash in on and inflate cost.  It takes some hefty personal loans to put one on - over $20,000 is the average - that's a lot of money.  Then you have wedding gifts, and after all of it are said and done, the marriage begins.  (Technically a violation of the 8th Amendment provision against cruel and unusual punishment.)  Most of the costs are consumed by jewelry, favors, and venue, but most wedding expenses brings a need for debt relief.

by BrendonU on Fri Jun 05, 2009 at 09:52:17 PM PST

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you as a friend.

http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/

this is going to sound nuts - I have my copy from the pre-pancreas goes boom days, when I could enjoy a newspaper and some suds.

It took a few years of digging, BUT, I am now familiar enough with it to recall that there are tables which summarize employment in the usa

go to the tab thingy for 'labor force, employment, earnings'

check out these tables

597 - Employed Civilians by Occupation--States: 2007 [Excel 77k] |  [PDF 465k]

599 - Occupations of the Employed by Selected Characteristics: 2007 [Excel 29k] |  PDF 454k]

600 - Employment by Industry [Excel 47k] |  [PDF 454k]

as an FYI - most of the earnings reported are averages, whcih are completely worthless.

(If I hire 29 people at 10 bucks an hour and pay myself $310 an hour, I can report a 20 buck an hour average wage ... see military contractors, Iraq ...)

the best source of income data in my NOT humble opinion is money income -- table 680.

rmm.

http://www.liemail.com/BambooGrassroots.html

by rmdSeaBos on Mon Jun 08, 2009 at 08:09:30 PM PST

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When I write that there are about 18-20 million state and municipal workers, I am including an estimate for teachers and some healthcare workers and it looks like my estimate was pretty good.

Looking more deeply into the Bureau of Labor Statistics tables, I see approximately 19,675,000 state and municipal workers as of the March 2009 table.

by dlaw on Fri Jun 12, 2009 at 11:59:56 AM PST

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