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Rick Warren to tell God what to do & Obama how to behave

If I were "inaugurally" in charge, I wouldn't want Warren talking to God on my behalf.

Have you ever actually listened to the preachers' prayers in most evangelical literalist churches? All they amount to is telling God - in cloying repetitious phrasing - what to do. Oh, and - in the midst of prayer - telling the people how to behave. It's one long litany of grandstanding self-absorbed false piety.

Or the Hutcherson quick-draw judgmental nonsense that pretends that Jesus stands behind him nodding his head in approval.

So in the spirit of thinking I could do better, I hereby arrogantly volunteer to offer a more useful but still chatty and cloying attempt to tell God what to do than whatever we'll hear from St Rick.

Dear Lord,

Lord, we are concerned about The Sacred Institution Upon Which This Country Is Based.

But we are more concerned about those couples already married than about those who want to get married. But all will better love each other and their neighbors if they keep their jobs - or find a new one. We ask, Lord, that you help all couples - married or not married -  to  economically stabilize their coupling.

Lord, please help our new president to find a few good men and women who will work intensely to stabilize marriage by doing everything in their power to achieve - not "work toward" - health coverage for every member of every family and every member-to-be of every family-to-be.

Lord,  we believe you when you say that a laborer is worthy of his hire. Help the new authorities increase family incomes with minimum wage increases and expanding worker benefits. This is the area of our nation where the largest number of marriages are already at risk.

Lord, we understand that the sacred institution of marriage is placed more at risk when it attempts to survive with inadequate housing, bottom-line cheapskate and/or corporate slumlords. We understand how family relationships are harmed when home ownership as an impossible dream.

Since we cannot tell each other what to do because of the mote-and-beam principle, help the macho image-makers and self-serving patriarchal philosophers understand that marriage is incomplete without intellectual, spiritual and moral equality.

Help us Lord to take a long look and seek answers from those who truly know about failed marriages in our society. Lord, are we really Christian in a purpose-driven society with unfettered corporate capitalism? Should we live in a trickle-down society the greedy try to convince us of naturally-occurring equal opportunities for every citizen to succeed in some idealized cookie-cutter manner?

Lord, would you please prompt the pretend warriors to fall silent and give priority to our married soldiers and their families? Help us to not let the irresponsible academic warriors write out political and military checks that the children in our families - families built on our sacred institution of marriage - will have to honor.

About those military families and our single soldiers: Please help us to care about what happens when they come home and are no longer tactical plastic markers on a map. Help us to better organize and make sure that the VA is truly an effective and functioning Good Samaritan - a boon to our society of veterans and something for which we as a nation can all be proud and not suspicious.

And we need to make sure that all household with or without marriage are not hampered by an urgent need for food assistance and other welfare.

Lord, help us to get out of the business of trying to control one gender's right to chose.

We desire a truly moral and ethical president, We want to be able to trust our leaders to work out processes of education and scientific study and encourage responsibility around human sexuality as a national concern and effort.

Help us to sustain and advocate for the sacredness of our marriage institution by educating and protecting our precious human national resource - our children.

Lord, to we really need the noisiest Christians prancing around sounding pious and sober about gay couples?

Is it not more worthy to march around obsessed with doing something about the factors that do greater harm to our families and their young members than whether or not we have a right to choose who marries who? Help us with our faith in your power and process so we can stop pretending that you want us to ban gay marriages  as the answer to solving the problem.

Please help us to work to encourage the nation to deal wisely with its domestic abusers and family abandoners in a major way.

And finally - In our plea for social justice and domestic tranquility - we also ask thy forgiveness for our ignorant religious moral arrogance.

In faith and trust we pray on this new day for new leaders,

Amen.


But then ... greater wisdom than mine from Thom Hartmann: Now here's an excellent "talk-me-down" from Thom Hartmann:

You'd think that we'd have learned from these experiences - particularly those of us who call ourselves "progressives" - that you get your desired results faster when you embrace, engage, and nurture your "enemies" than when you physically or rhetorically bomb them.

Barack Obama has learned that lesson, and is applying it in inviting Rick Warren to perform the invocation for his inauguration.

In doing so, he is reaching out a hand to those who today are - out of fear and ignorance - pushing away gays the same way their intellectual ancestors pushed away African Americans when anti-miscegenation laws were supported by most of these same "fundamentalist" Christian churches in the 1950s and 1960s.

Joseph Lowry, who is providing the other bookend to the inauguration with the benediction, is the other side of the balance Obama is bringing to this inauguration. Lowry has said, for example, "The same folks who are against progress for black folks are the folks who are against progress for women and gays and farmers and young people and peace activists.

We have to understand it's one struggle. This is ONE AMERICA, and the sooner we learn that the more effective our world will be."

And the more effective we will be at changing the hearts and minds of people like Rich Warren and his followers.

This is a tremendous first step, and I congratulate Barack Obama on his wisdom, walking metaphorically in Greg Mortenson's shoes to eventually bring the enemies of America's true values of love and tolerance over to our side.

So I guess I'm talked down ... and I'm willing to bet that getting Warren to talk to God in that cloying way Evangelical leaders do - before Obama speaks - means that Lowry's "amen" to what Obama says, will be much more meaningful than mere rebuttal.

Me?

I'd tell God to pay no attention to the man on the Saddleback with the Oil Can Henry beard.

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--is to stand up firmly for what you believe in.  Obama is supposed to believe that everyone deserves civil rights.  His choice of Warren says that there are two Americas, one with and one without full civil rights.  Having Lowery at the end is like having an anti-Semitic preacher lead the invocation and ending with a rabbi.

by eridani on Sat Dec 20, 2008 at 08:08:08 PM PST

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--to be represented by a public and bald-faced liar
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rwk845iMXY

Rachel Maddow has the video proof that he lied about his prior statement on gays.  He lied about McSame's "cone of silence" when Obama went first at the Saddleback church during the campaign.  He has wiped anti-gay statements from his website.

Seems to me there was something in the 10 commandments about not bearing false witness.
And then there's that creepy Dominionist thing.

http://justanothercoverup.com/?p=7

"Imagine: you are a foot soldier in a paramilitary group whose purpose is to remake America as a Christian theocracy, and establish its worldly vision of the dominion of Christ over all aspects of life. You are issued high-tech military weaponry, and instructed to engage the infidel on the streets of New York City. You are on a mission - both a religious mission and a military mission -- to convert or kill Catholics, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, gays, and anyone who advocates the separation of church and state - especially moderate, mainstream Christians. Your mission is "to conduct physical and spiritual warfare"; all who resist must be taken out with extreme prejudice. You have never felt so powerful, so driven by a purpose: you are 13 years old. You are playing a real-time strategy video game whose creators are linked to the empire of mega-church pastor Rick Warren, best selling author of The Purpose Driven Life."

by eridani on Wed Dec 24, 2008 at 03:43:02 AM PST

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There is a movement for people to turn their backs on Warren at the inaugural.  I agree that people should state their objection.  But, I really think that Obama, as a Christian who has left the liberal denomination, has as much agreement with Warren as he does with the Left.

Melissa Etheridge is now Rick's friend:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/melissa-etheridge/the-choice-is-ours-now_b_152947.html

She also made some comments that I agree with on the View:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/16/melissa-etheridge-takes-o_n_151451.html

To see Human Rights up for a vote...at the core is unamerican....I'm finally seeing people making the case for marriage equality everywhere...

....Thomas Jefferson wrote a paper that the rights of the minority should NEVER be voted on by the majority.

I think having human rights up for a vote is a big issue.  The idea of 'activist' judges is a myth and a way to have ideologues go beyond the seperation of powers.

And, when Churches, or their leaders who cannot be separated out really, promulgate for specific voter action, then they should lose their non-profit status and be under PAC laws.  

I do not care if the views are right or left. I was totally offended as a young person being accosted in my Catholic Church by ladies with fetuses in jars.  

I was equally offended at being accosted by peace activists when at Mass.

They should not have been allowed in the Church itself.  In the hall, maybe.  Or have a place with displays and literature, sure.

Thankfully, the priest never said anything.  That would have been beyond the pale, for which I would have reported them to the IRS or whoever controls the non-profit status.

This attitude of mine goes WAY back and I think we need to tackle it.  Ministers need to be constrained.  They can have their church or they can be involved in political advocacy.

by ktkeller on Wed Dec 24, 2008 at 01:35:21 PM PST

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