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This Would Look So Much Better In Your Backyard

Last week I read a post by Jon Stahl over at Evergreen Politics entitled "Whacking Dandelions". Well, actually it was more like a reprinting of an email Jon had received from Chris Van Dyk, of Citizens for More Important Things In the email, Van Dyk talked about the continuing efforts by private sports franchises to solicit public tax dollars for their ventures. It was the mention of a Snohomish County environmental icon that really caught my eye though.  

From the email; Subject: "Alert & Update from Citizens for More Important Things: Pro-sports Arenas Grow Like Dandelions"


"Working on the stadium issue is like weeding dandelions. Sometimes, it seems there are more and bigger dandelions no matter what you do. There is no rational explanation. They just appear.


State Senator Margarita Prentice has proposed, for Renton or Bellevue, at a cost of $300 million or so to taxpayers, a new $500 million arena for the Sonics. This despite the legislature having turned down the Sonics request, two years in a row, for $200 million. Despite Seattle voters giving 75% approval to I-91. Despite statewide polls showing 80% opposition to any subsidy. Does Senator Prentice think they were turned away, then, just so we could give them even more tax subsidies, now?"


And the Sonics aren't the only game in town (you may interpret that any way you like) and it was this next subject of the email that had/has me scratching my head.


"Likewise, on Tuesday, February 20, 6:00pm, the House Finance Committee is holding a hearing on NASCAR's bid for $145 million for a speedway on Hood Canal in Kitsap County. This proposal is an environmental disaster, and with respect to tax subsidies, it makes Clayton Bennett and the Sonics look, well, reasonable. For $145 million, the facility will be used for two--that's right, two--races per year. You'd think Washington State government had extra cash to throw around. Talk about dandelions. We thought we had stopped NASCAR at Kitsap County government, but Rep. Geoff Simpson and Rep. Hans Dunshee have engineered an end-around local control with HB 2062.(One of the ironies is that HB 2062 is touted as a jobs bill--but it exempts construction from having to pay prevailing wages.)"


Hello? Excuse me. Did you say Hans Dunshee; Democrat from the 44th LD and Environmentalist Extraordinaire? Surely this must be a bad interpretation of a loosely related bill. .........


Unfortunately not. HB 2062 - An Act relating to the creation of a public speedway authority.


And it seems Rep. Dunshee is not alone amongst the "last folks I would expect to find co-sponsoring a bill like this." The list of Snohomish County legislators signing on to HB 2062 reads like a who's who of Snohomish County's Progressive royalty - Dunshee, Maralyn Chase (32nd LD), Brian Sullivan (21st LD), John McCoy and Mike Sells (both from the 38th LD). What makes this group an especially implausible cast of characters in the "NASCAR in Kitsap County" drama is the recent flop that was "NASCAR in Snohomish County." Many will recall that NASCAR was turned away from Snohomish County in 2004 "officially" because the return on investment, in the words of County Executive Aaron Reardon, "...didn't pencil out." Although a great many more will recall the strong show of opposition from citizens and area legislators alike who were opposed to the projected environmental and traffic concerns as well as the notion of spending public monies for private ventures.


In an article in The Seattle Times by Ralph Thomas, it's as if only the venue has changed while the script remained untouched.


"Supporters of a proposed NASCAR racetrack near Bremerton told lawmakers on Tuesday the 83,500-seat speedway would create thousands of jobs and -- unlike other professional sports stadiums -- wouldn't cost taxpayers a dime in the long run.
But opponents painted the proposal as an "obscene piece of pork-filled corporate welfare" that would sully the local environment and create massive traffic problems.
Lt. Gov. Brad Owen called the proposal the best economic-development opportunity he has seen during his 30 years in state politics. But state Treasurer Mike Murphy spoke against it, saying state-funded debt should never be used to pay for private projects.
While Bremerton's mayor called the speedway a "great fit" for his city, other local officials from Kitsap County bashed the proposal."
However this sentence in the Times piece really raised some questions: "Still, not a single legislator representing the Kitsap Peninsula has come out in favor of the proposal." It is hard to imagine Hans, Maralyn, Brian, John, or Mike standing still if a group of legislators from outside of Snohomish County decided to impose something like this in their backyard.


I have requested comments from each of the Snohomish County legislators I have mentioned here. Thus far only Mike Sells has offered a reply. (In fairness, I only contacted them last night via email and they may not have had the opportunity to read that yet.) I offer some of what he has to say here and will post his entire message as a separate comment.


"...The track is paid for by the money it generates. It is not like you could spend the money elsewhere, because it doesn't exist if nothing is built. I believe the trade-off in construction jobs in the short term and the revenue from a limited number of large races are worth it.
   I have never been opposed to siting a track in a properly zoned area. If we begin to oppose that kind of thing, it just builds support for pushing out growth management boundaries by mobilizing those large numbers of people frustrated already by the lack of being able to develop in areas that fall outside urban growth boundaries. In other words, if you can't build it in areas designated for such activity, then you can bet that anger over development rights will just spill over elsewhere, and gain a larger and larger following."


After sending me his comments, Mike followed up with the following addendum which more accurately reflects his support for the bill as more in line with support for the creation of the enabling mechanism and not so much for a "Bremerton Raceway"


"I would add to my comments to you last night on NASCAR that one of the problems I have with the ISC Great Western Kitsap site is the pushing on urban growth boundaries through a Bremerton annexation. I believe that is why they ought to seek other sites, and not get wedded to that one. Some have even suggested areas in Eastern Washington., or a desire of Lewis County to be a host."


I look forward to hearing from the other legislators and I will be quick to post any of their comments here.


Peace,
Chad (The Left) Shue

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  I believe that the NASCAR track is an economic development opportunity for a community that may want to do it. In the case of Kitsap, while a number of the political leaders except the Bremerton mayor, do not want it, the track would be scheduled for an area that fits the zoning requirements, as I understand it. The footprint for a track and the events would be a lot less of an environmental problem than anything else that could be put it an area that is zoned for business activity. That being said, the bill is written broad enough so that other communities could have it located in their area, if they so chose to pursue it. If an area doesn't want it, I am fine with that, but I am also willing to open up the potential for those places that do want it.


  NASCAR is hugely popular with many fans, and the economic fallout from a limited number of races is huge for the tourist industry and hospitality industry where tracks have been built. The building trades and organized labor are strong supporters of the track, and have developed project labor agreements guaranteeing family wage jobs in the construction. Any track would also have to meet EIS standards, and the company has been talked to about instituting recycling programs. On days that the track is not in use, they are looking at community uses of such things as the infield for games. In addition community service organizations around the country quite often use the venue during races to raise money for their causes by becoming vendors at the track. There are some of us who would like them to also look at being the first track to have cars that use some form of bio fuel as an example to the rest of the country.


   The track is paid for by the money it generates. It is not like you could spend the money elsewhere, because it doesn't exist if nothing is built. I believe the trade-off in construction jobs in the short term and the revenue from a limited number of large races are worth it.


   I have never been opposed to siting a track in a properly zoned area. If we begin to oppose that kind of thing, it just builds support for pushing out growth management boundaries by mobilizing those large numbers of people frustrated already by the lack of being able to develop in areas that fall outside urban growth boundaries. In other words, if you can't build it in areas designated for such activity, then you can bet that anger over development rights will just spill over elsewhere, and gain a larger and larger following.


Addendum: I would add to my comments to you last night on NASCAR that one of the problems I have with the ISC Great Western Kitsap site is the pushing on urban growth boundaries through a Bremerton annexation. I believe that is why they ought to seek other sites, and not get wedded to that one. Some have even suggested areas in Eastern Washington., or a desire of Lewis County to be a host.


Mike Sells

by The Left Shue on Thu Feb 22, 2007 at 10:12:18 AM PST

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Thanks for putting this information up.  I was also confused about Simpson and Dunshee's involvement - Rep. Simpson posted his thoughts on this comment thread at SLOG (comment #6).

I'm with Obama

by willisreed on Thu Feb 22, 2007 at 10:55:30 AM PST

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Why on earth do we have to put any tax dollars into their development?  It's that simple.  If these are money making ventures, they will pay for themselves.  

Let the NASCAR sponsors take out bank loans, buy the land, go through the environmental impact process and build their track.  If they're not willing to do that using their own credit rating, they can go drive off a cliff somewhere.

Same with the Sonics!  Sure they bring fans, and the bring in a lot of money as well.  If that money isn't enough to pay for their infrastructure, the business model is a failure and they need to fix that first.

Give the community ownership of the team and track, or build the stadium, or build it on your own dime.  Period.

by chadlupkes on Thu Feb 22, 2007 at 11:16:43 AM PST

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My uncle raced many years ago.  My aunt, now in her 70's, made an interesting remark regarding the track.  

She said, "It was noisy and traffic was a mess back then, but we had fun.  It's not for us now, but I can't see why we shouldn't let young people have fun."

It will be noisy and traffic will be a mess.  But is that a critical issue?  No!  Objections based on this smack of NIMBYism.  Such objections need to be taken off the table.

We should instead focus on the net benefit to people.  Does it create jobs?  Will our economy improve?  Are environmental concerns taken care of?  What is the cost to the taxpaying public?  DOES IT PENCIL OUT?

Do we, the people, gain a net benefit from contributing public funds to this project?  Or not?

Jim Sizemore

by hoppingbuffalo on Thu Feb 22, 2007 at 01:26:51 PM PST

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