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Deal with it; KING 5 interview w/ Haditha Marine in WA

 As more disturbing facts come out surrounding the killings of up to two dozen civilians in the Iraqi town of Haditha last November, KING 5 talked with a local Marine who was a member of the squad now under investigation.

The incident began November 19 when the Humvee that North Bend, Wash. native Lance Cpl. James Crossan was riding in was blown up by a roadside bomb.

link; video interview at KING 5

 

 
   Think issue of Iraq doesn't affect everyday life in our fine state of Washington?  Think selectively ignoring the reality of WAR because it's too hard to grasp the inevitabilities of combatant war is a good way to cope with a reality-based issue?  Wonder why I feel the need to continue to demand leadership from U.S. Senators of Washington state?  And I wonder why more Washingtonian's don't feel as strong a need while the political football game continues to be played as a 'game' in the face of 'war'.

  Did folks really think ignoring that our troops are sent into combat in 2nd and 3rd and 4th deployments wouldn't come home to roost in your hometown?  How about when I asked Sen. Cantwell at  my second opportunity to meet with her, May 6, 2006 about the two Fort Lewis Rangers who were killed in their 6th deployment and she didn't know a thing about it.  And once she realized I was citing a link; Tacoma News Tribune;March 22, 2006; Two Ft Lewis Army Rangers killed in Iraq on 6th deployment  article, she made a stab at ignorance 'how could they be on 6th deployment when the war has only been 3 yrs.  That would mean the war would be in 6th year'  

  My reaction probably didn't help enlighten her much, but my astonishment at her lack of knowledge of military combat deployments in her own state astonished me into an astonished response.  What I said was 'Maria, they're Rangers and combat deployments are combat deployments'.  What was left unsaid by me was that combat deployments whether 3 months at a time or a year at a time are still 'combat deployments' where death happens on all sides. What I failed to respond to in my own astonishment was to point out the very real impact on a human being in a trauma-based killing, carnage and combat situation continues to live on manifesting the natural human reaction response to trauma for years to come, in our own communities here in Washington state.  

  Not a great way to help our U.S. Senator better understand the situation, I agree, but then, you know I would have actually expected the Senator to know more about the circumstances that directly affect some of her constituents in an issue of our country at war.  And I would have actually expected that if she didn't or doesn't know, that she would listen to those of us who might have more direct knowledge since we are so directly impacted by this war.  Yeah, us military families,  who live with this freakin war while others are 'drinking liberally' and finding the stimulating fun in blogging.

   Guess you can tell I'm extremely upset, and it probably reflects in my writing.  I can only guess now at how people and media and blogs will react to Haditha, along with the other incidents that will be unveiled.  But then I lived as a young military wife with a husband returning from Vietnam, so it won't be too hard to guess at some possible reactions.

   You're willing to have the 2 returning Iraq veterans in my family be redeployed to this carnage?  Expand that to mean returning any of the returning Iraq veterans to this horrific, undefined mission as an agreement with the Dem position of 'transition in 2006; when the Iraqi security stands up our troops can stand down'. You're willing to send in fresh new troops? Oh, you did catch the news that additional troops were just sent in, some fresh for the first time, some on repeat deployments.  As in fresh out of high school, a high school perhaps in your community?   How courageous is that and doesn't that make you complicit somehow in failing to do what we expect our U.S. troops to do in having integrity, courage on the battlefield, honor and dignity in the act of killing, maiming and carnage?  

  You do have a job as citizens in this upside down political relationship when our country decides to deploy military into combat.  An old model I learned growing up as a military brat was a triangular model regarding war.   A prepared military intended to PREVENT war.  In war, a Commander-in-Chief with responsibility to the actual Constitution, to the deployed military troops and to the citizens.  Military troops with responsibility to the Constitution and subsequent to that the Commander-in-Chief and subsequent to that the citizens.  Citizens have a responsibility to the military troops by fully expecting and demanding the Commander-in-Chief respect and fulfill the responsibility to the Constitution and to the military troops he has put into combat on a war footing. Congress factors into this equation with both responsibilities and accountabilities of the same.

   When that model is broken as it is in this circumstance with war in Iraq (and was with war in Vietnam), then I damn well do expect legislators to fulfill their end of the contract as representative of citizens of this country. And they damn well know they have responsibilities to live up to when they act in concert to send troops into combat. When it becomes apparant that legislators are not acting in good faith, what is left then is the citizens.  And if the citizens are choosing not to act, then what is left?

  Can you dare wonder why I expect more from our U.S. Senators, specifically Sen. Cantwell, and yes, I'm looking now at Sen. Murray who recently provided a lukewarm response on her position on the war; link; The Olympian; May 31, 2006;Iraq dominates talk during Murray visit .

 
Murray stayed away from taking a firm position on the U.S. future in Iraq, saying she voted against starting the war but has voted to help its veterans. She insisted that the next step for the United States is far from easy to discern in a war she estimated has cost
$450 billion.

She said she personally witnessed Baghdad's devastated infrastructure and has spoken to generals who say infrastructure repairs are needed to bring security to the region. "That is a completely different strategy ... and it's something the American people need to discuss and debate," Murray said. "I think the president should redefine the mission and have a debate on it.'

  Can you dare to wonder why I feel disgust with the political haranguing that argues in favor of doing nothing while folks argue we have to try to put Dems in power positions with no assurances whatsoever they will ACT in leadership on a life and death issue?  Don't upset the Dem applecart cause we would get the other party candidate, so shhhh, keep still and just wait - you'll see.

  What?  What will I see?

   Young readers who didn't live through Vietnam, can't expect you to know that 'history'.  Since it isn't a high priority in school curriculums, can't expect you to know 'of it historically'. Ignorance is not bliss, however, and you don't get a pass because you didn't know better.  Someday it will be your own children asking you the questions about what you did during this critical juncture in history.  You can answer you were too busy making a living, going to college, studies, building a career and family but that you cared.  And you will teach them to do the same should they face another critical juncture in history.  

  Older readers who have the history of Vietnam, (and this Administration does have a history of Vietnam, well enough to know what not to repeat and how to lull citizens to sleep) shame on you for taking our young to a new Vietnam.  Doesn't matter what side of the argument or political party talking points you ascribe to, it was always bigger than politics and your legacy will live on; what did you do during this critical period?  

   What will you do tomorrow different than you did today to bring this horror to an end?

   Keep quiet? Please don't, and if you make the choice to keep still till Nov elections, appreciate that 350 more U.S. troops will die by then (at the statistical rate of 2 a day are dying in the war) along with uncounted numbers of Iraqi citizens.  Let that be on your heads come election day when you celebrate in victory parties the incredible work of getting your candidate elected or re-elected.  And with no promises a Dem in power in Congress will assure any shift or difference for war in Iraq, except the continued cowardice already being shown, the death rates will continue to climb.  

   Depressing?  You bet it is, and feeling hopeless, helpless?  Then DO SOMETHING EMPOWERING and stop being Fearmericans.  

   To those of you who are doing something or believe you are doing something to hasten an end, and get our kids out of this war (extension of that is reduce the killing of kids in Iraq) I thank you and sincerely mean it from the depths of my heart.  To those of you ignoring what is staring you in the face, it's not too late...

 

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I think every day of the US soldiers -- and the people in Iraq who are in these nightmarish situations.

These are soul wounds as much as they are body wounds.

by noemie maxwell on Fri Jun 02, 2006 at 03:52:22 PM PST

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I did live through Vietnam, young, detached and powerless during those years. Only later did the comprehension of the stupidity and waste sink in. Never in a million years did I think the public would fall for it again. I'm not standing by doing nothing this time.

Hmmm. Looks like BellTowner has not yet dared to waltz in here with cinnabon on his breath and advise you to lighten up, or kindly attempt to help you do so with an amusing dose of sarcasm.

Maybe he thought better of it this time, suspecting perhaps that I would hunt him down and smack him senseless. Progress!

I'm off to the Convention, where I will remember what you just said.

 

by dinazina on Fri Jun 02, 2006 at 04:00:57 PM PST

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My heart goes out to you. I mean that.

I'm older than I look. And being no stranger to chronic pain, I'm feeling quite old right now. I'm not thinking of "last things," but I am thinking of "next-to-last" things. And what I think about is passing on what I've packed into my 47 years. You see--I'm old enough to remember Vietnam, too. I remember it going on and on and on and on and on . . .

In 1968, my parents bought a Ouija board. My first question was, "When will the Vietnam war end?" The answer came back one year--as good an answer as any that came from our politicians, both Republican and Democrat.

I expect Republicans to be feckless and despicable. It's a big disappointment to find so many Democrats who aren't much better when it comes to the war. The Vietnam war split the Democratic Party then, and the Iraq war is splitting the Party now. I knew it would happen in October 2002, and I'm a bit tired of being lectured to by offensive young bloggers who would never say the things in public that they say on a blog. This happens every day, and I'm sick of it. How dare these people tell us about "etiquette" and what's "depressing" and how a community blog is supposed to be.

In my "next-to-last" thoughts, I think about my niece. I called her on her 18th birthday and asked her if it had been a special day. "Yes," she said, "my teacher gave me a voter's registration card and I filled it out. My teacher said she'd even put a stamp on it."

Now that's a mighty fine teacher. My wife is a teacher, and I think about the real good she's done for all of us with her hard, dedicated, loving work. And I'm very proud of my niece, who thought that registering to vote made her 18th birthday special. As a mother, my sister has been a marvel to watch, and I admire her tremendously. My niece is the living proof of the good my sister has done in the world.

Lietta, I have the feeling--correct me if I'm wrong--that you and I are headed for burnout at about the same time. This is to be expected. That's why I'm thinking about how to pass on what I've been doing. For me, I think it's working out. I hope you're thinking about how to pass on your wisdom and work to others. That's all I know to do. Because the war is going to continue, and we can't carry it by ourselves.

I won't be at the Convention this weekend. Originally, I had a work retreat to go to, but it was cancelled. And over the last three weeks I've become too ill to travel anyway.

Lietta, keep fighting the good fight.

Love, David

by DWE on Fri Jun 02, 2006 at 05:05:59 PM PST

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am SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO fed up with the yellow dem arguement.

I keep thinking it is about the losing, losing, losing elections and policies as they impact all the low level peons who've been part of my life, including me, for decades.

The stakes are a lot more serious this time around.

Murray and Cantwell, in my definition of "leadership", are a waste of f$$$ing time, money, effort, space and skin.

In this state, I expect a Russ +++, for 1 huge reason -  

This state should NOT only be easily Dem,

Given history and education, we should be leading the country in reasons to be Dems,

and those reasons should be a lot f$$$ing more than,

We Ain't Thugs.

rmm

http://www.liemail.com/BambooGrassroots.html

by rmdSeaBos on Fri Jun 02, 2006 at 08:06:50 PM PST

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Anyone who's seen current films about the military in which basic training and combat training are discussed can't help but see how military training attempts to "desensitize and dehumanize" recruits presumably for their own good ... so when they need to harm or kill someone attacking the homeland, the soldier's defense can be timely and instinctively automatic.

Perhaps on the highest level, where what is suspect is the need for sabre-rattling and war, we ought to make a case for peace, an end to all wars and the need to brainwash our children with hate and authorized aggressiveness.

On lower levels of reality, the military's ability to construct an effective organization that will literally defend the nation requires recruiting with sizzle in order to lure future soldiers who will fight and fight effectively.

I do not want to see my child or grandchild brainwashed to hate another human being because of nationality (this more than race since nationality facilitates a broader horizon of human beings who are all citizens of this nation's real or pretended foes.)

So it's a dilemma. Is there a better way to turn fun-loving dream-filled American young people into  instinctive killing machines without fracturing their humanity? Is that question an oxymoron?

All the more reason to demand of ourselves that we do our duty to make sure leaders have justifiable reasons for turning our youth into characters like Kurt Russell in "Soldier."

This will become a cliche, but Haditha will reveal itself as a pattern, then a behavior and then a syndrome. Agent Orange and My Lai will be wedded in modern Iraq by DU and Haditha.

But the ultimate cause lies at the head of the country, the so-called heart of our national leadership that has duped the millions with an unjustifiable invasion built on lies and the commencement of a war to start all wars.

Yes, this is a problem of bad apples; apples apparently rotten to the core before they fell from their own poisoned apple tree, rolled into our orchard and took over our government - contaminating and spreading their own rot among all of us.

Arthur
You sure you ain't staking too much on yer theories? Not enough common sense?

by Arthur Ruger on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 06:25:48 AM PST

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The following appeared today in the The Capitol Hill Blue's The Rant:

Military commanders in the field in Iraq admit in private reports to the Pentagon the war "is lost" and that the U.S. military is unable to stem the mounting violence killing 1,000 Iraqi civilians a month.

Even worse, they report the massacre of Iraqi civilians at Haditha is "just the tip of the iceberg" with overstressed, out-of-control Americans soldiers pushed beyond the breaking point both physically and mentally.

"We are in trouble in Iraq," says retired army general Barry McCaffrey. "Our forces can't sustain this pace, and I'm afraid the American people are walking away from this war."

Marine Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has clamped a tight security lid on the increasingly pessimistic reports coming out of field commanders in Iraq, threatening swift action against any military personnel who leak details to the press or public.

Check out the whole article.

by DWE on Tue Jun 06, 2006 at 09:10:24 AM PST

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  • Stay tuned .. by Lietta Ruger, 06/06/2006 10:12:03 AM PST (5.00 / 1)
  • It's even worse. by dlaw, 06/07/2006 09:12:02 AM PST (5.00 / 1)
    • Basra by DWE, 06/07/2006 09:51:06 AM PST (none / 0)

...the West of Iraq.

He's a guy I went to high school with. From his first emails home you could sense the disrespect and hostility our soldier have towards the Iraqis. They bunk in safe, fortified installations, suit up in heavy armor and go out amongst a population they don't understand with Iraqi soldiers they don't trust or respect.

My friend made it his personal policy to search mosques - in direct contradiction of Marine Corps policy. He found a lot of weapons and insurgents but of course he did a lot of political harm. I knew that something like Haditha was coming, although I think my friend (well, he and I don't speak now but we have known each other a long time) did his duty honorably, by and large.

The kind of seething disrespect for the humanity of the Arabs that pervades the conservative movement, the Republican party, the Administration and the Armed Forces inevitably led to this, although I have to say I am shocked by the scale of the alleged atrocity.

There is now simply no argument for staying in Iraq. We cannot avenge the victims of Haditha when we ourselves are the perpetrators. We cannot make peace. We have lost.

by dlaw on Tue Jun 06, 2006 at 10:30:59 PM PST

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